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I think so. I think it was below water.

Say something about that remarkable party at Lord and Taylor's and who was back of that.

Mr. Brooks, the president of Lord and Taylor, was back of it. He is extremely generous minded, and I thought it was very well done.

Is this an award they give?

They give it once a year, yes.

They give once a year.

Yes.

Called the Rose Award.

Yes. They gave it to people like Einstein -- so similar to me! (chuckles) And Cronkite. A great mixture of people.

But only one person yearly.

That's right.

And it's a dinner party, isn't it?