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Yes, it's terrible when there are any words left out of basic legislation, with the words in the basic legislation, you might have made them face up to the fact that this is what was expected of them. As now the words aren't in there because every one in Congress took it that it was implicit, if you established a Cancer Institute, that you were against cancer and were going to plan to eliminate it. Now the general attitude is, there's no hurry and we're doing studies and projects. But they're not being brought together in any dynamic way to find out whether or not you can eliminate the disease, with any zeal, you know.

I see the point quite readily, and you as a catalyst are handicapped --

-- by the lack of this word in the legislation, and it's my fault, because I really the Heart Institute Act myself and that was the pattern for the others, for. Neualgia? the Arthritis and Metabolic Diseases

But your experience on the Council came after that?

Yes, I must say I couldn't believe that any group