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is now around a billion 500 million, including what used to
be the National Mental Health Institute which is now the Bureau
of Mental Health. It has escaped from under Dr. Shannon's
jurisdiction, thank God.
But in the sense that other things were sliced somewhat,
my reaction was, this is indeed a triumph.
Yes. Well, I think it has indeed been helpful. I wanted
to make another note about something that encouraged me very
much, and that is that I think I told you that I was on a
committee for the international White House Conference about
a year ago, and one of the panels was on population control.
Richard Gardner, who's a professor at Columbia and has been in
the federal government, wrote the memorandum for our panel,
and he sent it to me and asked for comment. And I looked at it
and I saw there was no money attached to our recommendations.
So I called him up and said, “Listen, if we don't have money
in this it won't mean a thing because these are just generalities.
The only thing that will startle any of them is if we say
so and so much money should be appropriated, and let's say
that we should appropriate 100 million dollars a year for
three years to foreign governments who wish to have facilities
and aid from us.” 300 million dollars over three years to aid
foreign governments who are anxious to have help in the field of
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