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He wasn't saying, “I suggest so and so.” Senator Hill and Mrs. Lasker have talkedto, and --

So the President aid, “You go back and talk to Cohn and get something that the three of you agree on.”

Now, of course. Senator Hill wasn't used to being talked to this way by President all he had so much more power than anybody else in the matter of health legislation that anything he said should have been accepted forthwith.

However, the President told Cohn that we had been to see him and that he had to find some body who was agreeable to us. So finally Cohn called up and said would Marson be agreeable? and I said yes, he'd be agreeable as far as I was concerned, I realized that they weren't going to appoint anybody that I suggested. They also asked Hill and Hill had nobody else that he was going to back and wasn't against marston.

Marston was at that time the head of the Regional Medical Programs for Cancer, Heart and Stroke. This program was a result of commission, the President's Commission on Cancer, Heart and Stroke, which was Just getting under way. Marston was a very nice man from Mississippi who'd been dean there of the medical school, and who had been a pupil of Howard at Oxford. But he's a man who is not at all driving. He's an ameliorator without a great drive to get results. Yalles is not as attractive a personality but he has a much greater drive to make something happen. So to Marston, he got appointed. We could have resisted Marston and insisted on a third person.