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suggestion was Dr. Yalles of the National Mental Health Institute.

Cohn and Lee said nothing about whether they would appoint Yalles, and I realized that there was some hitch some place.

Where was your vote, for Yalles also?

Well, I think that I might have -- I would have been satisfied with Yalles, Aldrich or -- Stone was out by this time. Yalles or Aldrich.

I said to Senator Hill, “We're not going to get this done, because Cohn and Lee are too vague, and they didn't make a clear commitment. So we have to go to the President and ask the President to see that Yalles is appointed.”

Hill and I did go to see the President the next day, and the President showed us a letter written that morning or the night before from Cohn opposing Yalles. Cohn had not said he was opposed to Yalles to Senator Hill, and he could easily have said this to him. He could easily have said why he was opposed to him and that he was against him. But he was opposing Yalles. The President said, “I can of course oppose him if you will say so, but I don't want to override my Secretary of HEW.”

Was he proposing somebody?

No, he wasn't proposing anybody else, he just was opposing Yalles. This was Just very tricky on the part of Mr. Cohn.