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So we hope that something will happen as a result of that.

Do you have other friends in the making in the Senate, other than Yarborough and Magnusson?

Yes. I am friendly with Senator Bible, with Senator Byrd, with as you know Magnusson -- with Senator Kennedy, Mansfield - between Magnusson, Byrd and Bible, they more or less can -- they have a pretty good hold on what the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee will do. Magnusson is skilled enough to get what he does in the subcommittee accepted by the full committee. Maggie is a little bit temperamental. He's wise and experienced but he's temperamental, and sometimes you don't know just how far he's going to go. One knew very well what one could expect from Senator Hill, but I don't know always what Magnusson's going to be able to do.

Would you say that all these together are hardly equal to Senator Lister Hill.

They certainly are not in any way equal to him. Hill cared and he had the prestige, the seniority, the information and was magnificent. Now, Russell is really ill of cancer of the lung himself and not active.