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Yes, by '73 anyway.

The time is ripe for it.

Yes. I hope it's a good bill that passes, because there will be tremendous fights about, you know, what the bill will in the end include, because of course there's tremendous opposition from insurance companies and -- the American Medical Association.

Doesn't the initial battle center around getting the principle of the thing on the books?

No, I don't think the opposition is so much that any more, It's really more or less, what are you going to include? How much are you going to include? I think everybody admits, most people feel that there is going to be a bill. There's such a big sentiment for a bill that it becomes, what bill is it going to be? What is it going to cover? How comprehensive will it be? I may be wrong about that but I think that's it.

What are the principles that you are fighting for?

I'm interested that it should be comprehensive health insurance, that it should include the training of doctors and the building of additional facilities, training of more doctors and building of additional facilities, because to have comprehensive health insurance and have people have proper care, there need to be about 50,000 more doctors, and