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Sure. The Post, the man who is now publisher - he succeeded to it as Mr. Meyer's son-in-law, not because of his legal activities - is Phil Graham. The other one - these are the names of fellows who just come to mind. The others have equally interesting careers. The one who is now McCloy's deputy, just appointed the other day as McCloy's deputy, on the disarmament organization, is named Adrian Fisher. He was a classmate of mine at Princeton. Both these fellow were Harvard Law School graduates who came to Washington during that period and joined us. The SEC Chairman is William L. Cary, who was just appointed Chairman the other day. He's a professor here at Columbia. And it was a very interesting group, and we had a lot of interesting times, particularly that last year or two before the War began to break it up.

I went into the Army in the spring of '41.


You said you preferred to be drafted rather than try to get in any other way?


Yes, just out of, I think, as much curiosity as anything else. I don't think it was any particular special kind of patriotism, but I just sort of feel that people with good educations like myself and pretty good background ought to go through the process of being drafted and being a private and not try to avoid that kind of service by getting a commission. Now I don't mean to suggest any reflection on other people who felt quite sincerely that their kind of education would be wasted as privates and that therefore it was silly not to get a commission, which many of them did, including many of my closest friends. I don't question their view at all. And as a matter of fact in the long view I think they were undoubtedly right, because I certainly wasted a lot of time in the Army as a private and

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