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hot campaign against the method that they were using in electing members and, in effect, against the whole club system, which did not endear me to lots of my clubmates and other people at Princeton. And, of course, as in the case of all these campaigns, very little came out of it, but there was a certain amount of excitement at the time.

Are you Jewish, sir?

I am.

I am too, but when you said that this was a personal thing, did the fact that you are Jewish make this a more personal crusade? Did you feel that there was anti-Semitism in the clubs?

Well, there of course was, but I don't want to relate this to the subsequent post-War campaign, in which the Jewish question became very prominent, and in my opinion, much too prominent in this whole club question. The clubs were bad, and they certainly were bad for Princeton on really broad social grounds and not merely because they also were a vehicle for the expression of anti-Semitism. I felt during all the fuss after the War on this subject there was too much Jewish business. In our campaign, the Jewish question as such never arose at all. It wasn't even mentioned, for many reasons, one of which was that I didn't think, although it was relevant, this was the major problem. The major problem was the fact that the clubs selected only a certain number of boys and ones who weren't selected, whether they were Jews or not Jews, were in an important sense discriminated against at the University because so much of the social life of the University revolved