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There's something that Punch doesn't want to accept. He doesn't want to have the Times have to rely on the rest of the Times Company, you see - doesn't want it carried by the rest of the corporation.

Q:

Well, I don't want to sound too much like an economic determinist, but the whole relationship of anti-business or not anti-business may be seen in the context of the Times' own fortunes.

Oakes:

No question. No question. I assure you, I'm not necessarily an economic determinist, but what the hell, that of course was very much a part of the picture. And that affected by - in a none too subtle way, or maybe more or less subtle way -

But before we stop this, I have to say again that the direct interference, on this basis, with the specific editorials or with specific editorial positions, was rare. Indirect, I felt this, and I expressed to my colleagues concern, increasing concern about this, because I simply felt it in the air - to my, two or three close colleagues.

Q:

Who would they be?

Oakes:

Raskin. My associate, assistant editor, Fred Hechinger, who succeeded Raskin as assistant editor of the editorial page when Raskin retired.

Q:

He had been your education editor.



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