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retirement from the paper, which is only last May, a year ago - I mean, only a year and a half ago, but there are some interesting and, I think, rather distressing questions that happened, in respect to relationship with the publisher, that I think would be far better for him to talk about than for me.

But anyway - so you wanted me to talk about other of my associates?

Go down the line, I guess.

Oakes:

Well, Fred Hechinger, who's my other very close associate, whom I got - I got him from the news department

3In early fifties, JBO (then on editorial board) was asked by Arthur H. Sulzberger to undertake a nationwide search for the best potential education editor of the New York Times (to succeed Ben Fine). I spent several weeks doing this and came up with Fred Hechinger as my number one recommendation.

, as indeed I got Raskin, and as I would have liked to have gotten all my editorial people, because I felt strongly that it would be a great advantage to get people on the editorial board who had had something of the Times tradition and who knew something about the Times, as well as having been professional newspapermen. I did not succeed in doing that. In some case, I simply couldn't find them, or the ones that I wanted wouldn't come, because they had other ambitions, and I'll mention a couple of those in a minute.

In any case, Fred Hechinger did come right out of the Times and a very thoughtful, very courageous, sensible, intelligent man who, when Abe retired, I immediately made, with the publisher's reluctant acquiescence, the assistant editor. I say reluctant because, at that time, it had already been announced that I would leave my post at the end of the year, '76.

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