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In the chapter on “Editorial and News Explore Their Problems,” R is clearly Rosenthal, and T is myself. I recognize some of the actual conversations here. But we switched later, some of these letters were switched around, and my effort -

Substantial parts of this are verbatim, I gather. Of course he's done some selective editing.

He has done a great deal of selective editing, but parts are indicated where it's right off the tapes. I think it's worth emphasizing what I've already said, that is that while I always knew and everyone always knew that the conversations were being taped, I certainly didn't think that they would turn up verbatim in a book that would be so easily identifiable. And maybe that's just as well, in the sense that it certainly made for totally free conversations.

Did he not give you an opportunity, before the publication, to go through, over, -

He certainly did. He certainly did. And I did a certain amount of editing myself, excisions I think in some cases, but what I did most of all was try to change letters around, in order to mix up the reader, to try to keep this thing as anonymous and as far from the Times and Times personalities as possible. I did quite a bit of that, which he accepted. I sent back the manuscript. I read the whole thing.

I presume most of the others did?