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to you. It is a major innovation that has nothing to do with going after the suburban housewife. It was the Op-Ed page, and I really fought that one through from the beginning, and there, I can talk about that at another time if you want. But in any case, I just have to say, having probably sounded like an old reactionary in everything that I've said about the New York Times, I myself am really the fellow responsible for the Op-Ed, which has been considered and generally hailed as one of the most interesting innovations in American journalism. And so -

That's excellent.

I have to make that point.

Let's have to do that for the next time, as a topic. A very good topic.

All right.