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Barrett became dean of the Columbia School of Journalism. But this is before he was dean?

Oh, yes. He was connected in some way, and here I really have to rely on memory of more than twenty years ago, with the Suez Canal Company, which sounds like an odd thing, but in some way he was, and I'll tell you how this -

Was it with Hill and Knowlton, and he was representing in public relations?

I cannot answer that. I do not remember.

Ed will remember.

But the reason I bring this incident up is that it's just always stuck in my mind, because Ed called me - we were old friends from college days, and Eddie called me one day - at that time, I was a member of the editorial board of the Times. This was long before I became editor of the editorial page.

There was a Suez connection. It was somewhere in there. In any case, Barrett called me up, had a short article dealing in some way with the Suez Canal that he wanted to publish, and it was, I thought, a very interesting piece, but it was clearly too long for a letter, and it was also - and unless it were published as a letter, the fact was that there was no place in the New York Times where this could be published, because it was not a magazine type