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I remember. Yeah.

-- which of course is well documented, partly because of worry about Julius overseas. Partly that. There's no question that that was part of it. I think the whole family were practically having a nervous breakdown because Julius was a front line officer. He was a captain in the infantry, and he did some very impressive exploits in actual direct combat. Besides being a very, very fine person. But anyway, Adolph was having a nervous breakdown, not only for that reason. There were other reasons, too, but that's getting beyond my competence to talk about, and there are plenty of places one can get further information on that.

But the story, which may or may not have been told by anybody else, which I cannot personally attest to, but I have certainly heard, was that when Julius finally got back from military service, and to resume his job at the Times, where he had been working -- before he went into the army -- I think as an aide or assistant or something to his uncle Adolph. After all, we didn't get into the war until 1917, and I think for the two or three years after Julius had graduated from Princeton in 1914, I think all or most of that period he was working at the Times as an assistant to A.S.O. And he was, of course, generally and universally considered by the family, all of whom worshipped him, as the heir to Adolph Ochs. And I have no doubt that Adolph Ochs thought that, too, until Iphigene married Arthur.