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I think we should have written another editorial. If we didn't --
Maybe you did.
-- the day after that announcement, saying that it's obviously an untrue prediction,
although if it were true, it would be a highly desirable [chuckling] state of affairs. But I
should have had sense enough --
-- that this probably wasn't going to happen. I don't ever, ever over-attribute the
influence of the Times editorial page. I don't claim that we're responsible for this or that.
But I do think, knowing about Jack Kennedy's extreme attention to the press generally and
to the New York Times in particular, there's no question that he and his closest associates
paid a lot of attention to what we said. I know that from a lot of personal reasons.
What are some of the other experiences -- you mean --
Well, sure. I mean, I never could meet or see Kennedy without his knowing
precisely what the Times had said, an editorial on any subject, any important subject that
had concerned the administration. He was very conscious of what we said. So was Lyndon
Johnson, also. But I think Lyndon was less inclined to take our advice because he felt so
much more defensive than Jack Kennedy. I think Jack Kennedy, because we had
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