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think, in the Washington bureau of the Times. In any case, whatever he was, there's no doubt
that he wanted to become editor. As I understand it -- I don't suppose it could ever be
documented -- but he was wildly disappointed and embittered or angry at Merz, anyway --
probably at Arthur Sulzberger, too, as far as I know, because he hadn't appointed --
Of course, subsequently Krock became actually far better known, at least to the public, than
Charlie Merz, because as chief correspondent, a Washington correspondent and as a
columnist, etc., etc., and as a couple of times -- once or twice -- Pulitzer Prize winner for scoops
he had had, Krock became much better known -- nothing that he liked better than to be better
known -- than Charlie Merz, who was a rather retiring individual, anyway.
But that's a long explanation of why Merz made that remark to me. Too long, no doubt. But
anyway, that's the explanation.
It's a very interesting piece of history.
Moving along in your own career, you were writing with probably pretty steady frequency in
the '50s about the environment, and I would just like for us to talk about that because so far in
your oral history we haven't discussed that or it hasn't been discussed, and it has become a
major part of your career.
I guess so.
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