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I mean, if a candidate were a hot, really strong conservationist in both his speech and actions and so on, and at the same time was an advocate of witch doctoring, why, I wouldn't vote for him, but I would say that it would sure be a very strong influence -- and always has been, as long as I can remember, a very important issue with me in deciding whom to vote for.

And I might say -- I can't help but inject this right now, which has nothing -- shouldn't probably be in my oral history -- but when I see [New York Senator Alphonse] D'Amato, who I think is about the lowest character on the whole political totem pole, suddenly becoming a big conservationist --

I was thinking that!

-- in the last few weeks, the last few months, that's just ludicrous, of course. So if you're thinking would I vote --

No, that wasn't the motivation for my question.

[laughs]

It was more --

I don't mind this, what I just said, being in the oral history at all. I don't mind it a bit. But I sure wouldn't vote for Al D'Amato because he's suddenly become a great conservationist [chuckling].