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I remember talking to Ada Louise about this months and months and months after I had left my editorial position and many months after our last editorial on that subject had appeared, and surely after my first Op-Ed piece taking the other side had appeared. I remember talking to her about it and saying that I was sorry that I ever let her persuade me about Westway the way I did. She said -- I still remember -- she said she was in favor of it at that time because of the way it appeared in the projected plans. But I remember her also saying to me that she didn't feel that way anymore because she felt that in the intervening period, the political evolution of Westway was such that she was no longer -- she felt that they had balled up the original planning for it, and it was no longer the kind of project that she would even particularly favor.

That's interesting. It's interesting also --

Which made me feel better, too!

There was a big neighborhood movement going on around Westway. Did they impact your thinking at all? I know Marcy Benstock and some other people -- there was a big neighborhood movement, an anti-Westway project in the Village. I was wondering whether any of those people helped impact you or change your mind.

Oh, sure. I got in touch with or maybe I was on the mailing list or something -- that's how I got -- but I eventually, in any case, in connection with the first and then continuing Westway pieces -- was in close touch with a woman named Marcy Benstock. Is that name familiar to you?