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that he knew by experience all that it was necessary to know. While he was a terribly good official, he didn't do much philosophical thinking about it.

McAneny was the exact opposite. He had a lot of convictions. He had done a great deal of thinking, philosophical and analytical in nature. He had come to conclusions that were the conclusions a scholar fifty years from now will be able to understand how you got that way. McAneny had a good intellectual grasp of life and of political life. He made political plans. He judged everything that came up in the Mitchel administration, and everything that was proposed, from the point of view of a philosophy of politics and a philosophy of government that was, I think, very sound. He seemed older than he was. To this day I don't know how old he was, but he seemed a good deal older than the others. I always felt that he wasn't as old as he seemed. He had a sort of a schoolmasterish approach and I think that the others felt that. They listened respectfully to him and then they would go away and talk to each other in a more loose, friendly and casual way. They were always on very good behavior in front of McAneny. He was very thin with a Van Dyke beard and he looked scholarly. He looked older. I think that Van Dyke beard made him look older than he was. That's my memory of it.