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She was helpful to the administration because she would do things like having them all out to supper. She would get people discussing. She would introduce people to other people. It was very helpful to have that kind of a person operating in Washington to case the strains and tensions. Wilson liked her very much. So did Newton Baker like her. Practically everybody in the administration liked her. She was very much a friend.

When it came to appointing this committee, I don't know what put it into his head to put a woman on it, but something did. I suppose that women were beginning to agitate. He thought of Mrs. Harriman who was the only lady whom he knew who was directly interested in politics as such. He put her on it.

It was very interesting because I remember Lillian Wald saying, “Oh mercy, what does she know about the subject. Mercy me, how terrible! She doesn't know anything about these matters. How can she be useful?”

I remember Mrs. Florence Kelley saying, “Well, Lillian, I've run my Consumers' League all these years with amateurs who didn't know anything, but whose hearts were in the right place. I regard it as my duty to educate them. If their hearts are in the right place, there'll be no trouble. You