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had been out to Colorado. They had seen the Colorado Fuel & Iron Company works. They had heard testimony about the strikes and the lockouts, the calling in of the sheriffs an the gun men.

Mother Jones was by this time a fairly old woman. This was I think around 1919 and she died in the early thirties so she couldn't have been too, too old. However, she was white-haired in 1918 or ‘19, looked very old and had the appellation of Mother Jones fixed on her. She was the widow of a miner, one of the western miners. She was Irish, with a beautiful breezy rich brogue, and that quick-witted, slap-dash kind of tongue that would say anything, very picturesque in what she said, using big language. She had a very violent temperament. She was a natural born fighter. I don't think she knew the difference between fighting the British occupation of Ireland, or fighting a Senatorial committee. She was always agin the government. She was agin anything, I gather. That had been her history.

Her husband had been a coal miner and a member of the mine workers union. He had been killed in some accident, I think. He had been a very vigorous labor leader, one of the audacious organizer types. I gather from what I have been told about the situation that he was full of big talk too.