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He couldn't bear that. The lesser of two evils was to hire a public relations man who taught you how to got on with the public. Apparently he engaged him with the full intention of taking his advice, even though it was painful. And so it was Ivy Lee's doing that he appeared at this hearing. If he had been called otherwise, he would have found some way of being out of their jurisdiction. He just would not have appeared, or somebody would have read a statement in his behalf. He had never been known to appear in public before.

When Mr. Walsh called John D. Rockefeller, then, everybody was aghast that he should appear at all. He slid quietly out of another room and took his seat on the witness stand. Mr. Lee came in with him. Mr. Lee sort of sat down in a small chair near him. He didn't show up much. I saw him, but I should have said that most of the people in the room wouldn't have seen him. Mr. Walsh asked Mr. Rockefeller to make a statement in his own words of what the situation was. This apparently had been agreed upon before.

Mr. Rockefeller read from a prepared manuscript of some sort. It was a very good statement, very good indeed - very clear, very complete, very factual, very well put, obviously the work of a public relations counsel. Then at the end he road a paragraph in which he said that the Colorado Fuel & Iron Company was an independent organization. To be sure