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purely classical things.

I don't mean to say that I was crazy about them, but I was interested in the new things. So that when I came to New York I went to galleries that had that kind of thing. The Macbeth Gallery was one of them. There were only two or three private art galleries in New York, except those like Durand-Ruel, who were always selling classics in those days. The Macbeth was on Fifth Avenue just below 42nd Street. The other one was on one of the forties - 43rd or 44th, just off Fifth Avenue. Both of those were always showing modern American and modern paintings of other nationalities.

Robert Henri was then teaching at the Art Students League and had great influence on all of his students.

I also used to go over from New York to Philadelphia to see the opening of the annual show at the Philadelphia Art Museum, which was then one of the great shows in America. What was shown at the Philadelphia Art Museum was the latest thing. There I saw Thomas Eakins for the first time and some of the others of that Philadelphia school. Of course Henri always showed there. I think it was over at Philadelphia that I first saw one of George Bellows' very early paintings. There was always, of course, a lot of Mary Cassatt, who was of a Philadelphia family. She never came back to America. She stayed in Paris and regarded herself as a French painter,