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own personal standards, for their education, and f or increasing their capacity to participate in every aspect of American life, including the political, educational, cultural, social aspects and the community. Look at what you have today. You've got labor leaders on all committees. You wouldn't think of having the United Hospital Fund start without a couple of labor leaders, along with everybody else, not chosen because you have to. That's a voluntary matter. It's regarded as not only a way to tap their pockets, but It's regarded as a proper community, civic pattern.

At that time I was much more interested in social work, and still am. That's why I say that I think that legislation, which was the result of social work leadership, is the most important thing. I'd much rather get a law, than organize a union, and I think it's more important. I would rather have gotten the 54 Hour Law through for women, than organize the shirtwaist makers. We got that through after they had had the hullabaloos and didn't have much of an organization. The women laborers were not much organized. We could drag Rosie Schneiderman up and say, “See, she's the president of a union.” But it was a pretty weak union back of her. It wasn't much and wouldn't hold up. We took the lead and made the battle to get a law limiting the hours of labor of women. That, I think, was much more important