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interested in anything having to do with social improvement. He was later succeeded by a man called John O'Hanlon, who was a very different type of individual and whose heart was moved by suffering. I suppose you'd call Fitzgerald a labor hack. He wasn't dull; he was rather smart and he was smart about the things that he'd been directed to be interested in and to move along.

I had lots of experience with this when we tried to get up some labor support for some of our bills. They would support us, but not very energetically, with regard to the 54 hour bill for women. They would give it a little lip service, but for sure never turned over a finger, and neither did any of the other labor people, for it. At first they wouldn't even take a vote in their annual meeting to be in support of it. Later they did on the theory - and I heard this speech made - that it would stop the entrance of women into industry. They didn't want women to come into industry. If you regulate the hours, they wouldn't get the jobs and you wouldn't have them around. They were very ardent for a bill, which they put through, to prevent the employment of women in the core rooms of foundries on the theory that it was bad for their health. There was not one ray of evidence that it was, but they were the best jobs in a





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