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when I first came to New York to study - that was a settlement over there in Hell's Kitchen. So I knew the reputation which he had in Hell's Kitchen, which was something a little lower than the angels. The McManus was the source of all help there. I remember that Miss Mathews, who was the head of Hartley House (social settlement), as indeed she is now, had said to me, “I know Mr. McManus doesn't go down very well with some of these political reformers, but really he's a source of strength in time of trouble. If we find one of our people (meaning a member of the settlement) in trouble, McManus is the person to see.”

I remember that while I was over there at Hartley House there was a very serious case of a boy being arrested and being in danger of going to prison. He was the sole support of his mother and two little sisters, who were obviously nice children. They were Hartley House people and were in awful distress. Someone suggested that I go for help for them to the Charity Organization Service office in the district. I laid out this case and asked if they wouldn't help the woman immediately.

Of course, they explained to me that they had to make an investigation and so forth and so on. They made their investigation and in the meantime I, personally, and a few friends were handing out money to eat on for the