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I don't think he ever said, “We'll make you governor,” but he felt that he'd be somebody. But he must keep absolutely straight.
That I've heard from other people who knew the background. I think Veiller told me also; I'm pretty sure Ben Marsh told me that - and they've been around a long time.
I didn't have much of a personal connection with Al Smith outside of this legislative contact. Al Smith was a very correct man - very correct. He had the highest standards of how ladies should be treated. The business of being chummy with ladies who came up to Albany in a lobbying fashion never crossed his mind. He was too nice a man. He followed his strictest principles and there was none of this get-gay stuff that you see around today. He never called me by my first name; neither did I call him by his first name, although we were trusted friends and he told me things I'm sure he didn't tell other people. Certainly I took his advice on hundreds of matters I wouldn't ordinarily consult anybody about. Conversations were always in connection of going to talk to him about bills and legislation, however.
I got a magnificent dose of him when I went to him in this first year. I was going to Europe. I had a passage for sometime in June. The Legislature was scheduled to
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