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Then there would be the answer. “Yes, but there are all these other aspects.”

Then we would begin all over again. I must have heard each of them say at least twenty times the reasons for thinking he was a good man and long silences between speeches. Bernard Shientag sat there as counsel. He had outlined the case to us. He had outlined the law. He had outlined what the requirements were. If we didn't remove him, the Governor would. There was no question about it. The Moreland Act Commissioner would so recommend. The Moreland Act Commissioner had done the Commission the great favor of informing them about his discovery about this man before he gave it to the public and before he gave it to the Governor, so that we would have the opportunity to dismiss him. Shientag also sat down and waited for them. This went on, and on, and on, until eleven o'clock.

By this time I was nudging Henry Sayer who sat next to me. He was a young man. He wasn't an old fuddy-dud. He was about my age and I thought he ought to have some gumption. I said, “This has got to be done. It's got to be done tonight.”

I remember thinking to myself, “Do men really behave like this? Women don't behave like this. I've had more official contact with women than I have with men and women don't behave like this.” As I was waiting for time to pass, I began to try to philosophize as to why it was. I said to