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have been if I sprung it on him. I tried not to be smarty and show off by making motions in the Commission, but to be conciliatory and discuss it particularly with him.

I made very good headway with him and with Henry Sayer, who was a Republican member. I made superficially good headway with Jim Lynch, but I don't think he ever was a faithful friend to anybody. He was a terrific individualist. We did cooperate in a great many things. He came around and finally the Commission brought itself to testify before the Assembly committees in favor of certain types of legislation. He said to me then that he had always thought the Commission ought to testify in favor of progressive legislation, but that it had been the policy of the Commission previously to take no action whatever on proposed legislation, but to let the Legislature do what it pleased without any recommendations from the Commission.

I proposed that we do something about it. The Governor had put Shientag and me there to stir the old place up and get some headway. The Governor wanted it done. I don't mean to say that I dashed ahead to do things that I didn't know, or hadn't ascertained that the Governor was in favor of. O'Connor, Shientag and I consulted constantly, and with the Governor from time to time. The Governor looked upon me