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yet know where she got it, because I never knew what she was talking about. She must have been a very bigoted person and I daresay her feelings were hurt by being left outside of many things, but all through the period just before I became Industrial Commissioner she had been a troublemaker. She made trouble in the Department. She whispered things about other people. She would whisper to one employee that something was wrong about So-and-So. She was just kind of a mild troublemaker. Then she began going and whispering things to various politicians.

I've forgotten much of this about her, but I'm sure I have some memorandum written somewhere on her, because I remember my secretary, Miss Jay, saying, “You'll have to write these things down because some day you may have to tell about them. It may be important to know what McPike did.”

Anyhow, she had been troublesome. She had quietly, and by whispers, accused a number of persons of being Communists. She was all wrought up about Al Smith's campaign and went so far as to say that the people who voted against him were Communists, that it was the Communists that defeated him. Of course, they just didn't exist in that period, but she was always seeing things under the bed. The Russian Revolution was ten years gone by that time, but





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