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work. The Smith group were doing that. It was considered the right thing to do. There had been a public reconciliation. They didn't break again until towards '36 when the Liberty League came up.

I can't quite remember where I was election eve. There have been so many election eves in my life that they tend to get blended all into one. I don't, at this moment, distinguish between them. I remember 1928 with great clarity. It was probably the first Presidential election in which I'd ever had a significant part. Of course, there was particular tension there. But then there had been so many gubernatorial elections. In New York you always do the same thing - whether it's the Governorship or the Presidency. The election of a Governor of the State of New York is a very important affair. We always make a lot of it and have a big time at whichever hotel we're using at the moment - the Biltmore or the Commodore. The Democrats fall out first with one hotel and then with the other hotel. It's always the same thing in an election. You go to headquarters. The New York Times always had a reception.

Now I remember. I was at the Biltmore in 1932 where the headquarters were. I think that, most unusually, I wasn't dressed - that is, I didn't have on evening clothes. There was a lot of milling around. We had been at headquarters