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Massena. We found there were worked-out iron mines. I sent a special investigator up there, Lillian Sire; it was the only good thing she ever did. She was supposed to be a political appointment. We had in the Department a division called the Division of Aliens. God knows how it ever got there! It was a holdover from something. This function for looking out for the welfare of immigrants had been added to the duties of the Labor Department after the report that Miss Frances Keller made to Governor Hughes. I worked on that. That was one of my first jobs. Part of her report recommended that there be set up a permanent function to watch out for the exploitation of immigrants and this little Division of Aliens had been set up.

In some administrations they paid attention to it and in others they didn't. It nearly always went to some old hack. They only got a little bit of money. The theory was that there was nothing to do anyhow and they could carry it along somehow.

Anyhow, this woman, Lillian Sire, was a little Tammany Hall buster. She was one of those squatty women, without being fat. She was short and “ribbed up close,” as we say about a certain type of horse. She was very blonde, drug store, which was not as good as it is today. It was much more obvious than the kind that's on the market in '52.