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Justice and the attorneys in the various departments, such as the solicitors, there is no very exact professional or administrative relationship with the judicial branch. If there is a case involving your department, you don't go see the judge about it. That would be very bad. There is no code, however, which is known to everybody as to how they should address members of the houses of Congress, and so forth. I'll go into that later.

Getting back to this reception, we were received by the president and his wife pleasantly enough. They know us both very well. Mrs. Roosevelt knew Susanna and spoke to her. We all knew each other of that was very pleasant. I then was ushered into the little room where the Cabinet was “caged.” Under the Washington social code, the Cabinet always has a little more privacy at large receptions than the general herd does. One of the little rooms at the big receptions is actually roped off so that the people won't come into the Red Room. I don't recall whether this was roped off on this occasion, or not, but the military aide who escorted us showed me into this little room. I realized that he was about to drop me there and that was where I was supposed to be.

So we spoke to people there. By this time I hadn't been introduced to the wives of Cabinet officers, and really