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and not have plenty of milk and eggs, but I learned that if you're a one crop farmer, you never see milk, eggs, or anything of that sort. You raise corn and that's all. The corn is turned into hogs and that's end of it.

So, as it turned out, we had contact with the Department of Agriculture in more or less a conference style. That was all until Congress began to make some laws about agricultural labor and about these Mexicans coming in - “wetbacks,” as we now call them.

The Departments of Labor got into the problem in California that Glassford handled only because it had all the aspects of a strike. It was called a strike. The police called it a strike. It seemed up to us to handle it. They were getting wages. They were not sharecroppers or tenants.

This relationship between Departments of Labor and Departments of Agriculture is a problem that European governments have been troubled about at times. Once when I was in Geneva I discussed it with some of the Ministers of Labor I was seeing there. The Swedes, I remember, handle it all as a labor problem. They say, “But, after all, we're such a small country. Also forestry is a very big part of our whole industrial and economic life. Forestry