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available. That happens to be an industry that I was familiar with because I had been coping with it in new York State, where we had a very large dairy industry and very complicated problems.

So this bill of Black's allowed for no variation, no differences, nothing - a flat thirty hours for everybody in all kinds of work, whether it was hard labor, or non-exhausting labor, or what it was. The reasons for that he had all figured out. I sat at his desk and heard him describe those reasons. I wish I'd kept the pieces of paper. I didn't know enough to do that then. He took a pencil and a pieces of paper. He took the number of persons in this country, arriving at a figure from the utilization of the census figures, Bureau of Labor Statistics figures, National Industrial Conference Board's figures, the number of wage earners among those persons, the number of unemployed at this time, the number of unemployed a period, we'll say, six or seven years earlier in the prosperous twenties, the number of persons looking for work, so forth and so on. Then he had taken the census of manufacturers. He had estimated from that, and I think the estimates were perhaps done by the Bureau of the Census, the total value of the products of the manufacturers and industries, and the total value of the activities of the distributive





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