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operations as they had anything to do with the general welfare of the country.

I recall Baruch being mentioned while Roosevelt was Governor and I know he was up there a number of times. At that time I associated him principally with his interest in the development of Saratoga as a spa. He was very much interested in that. His father had been a physician. He had always been interested in all ways of curing people. His brother, Dr. Herman Baruch, was a physician who was all sold on European spas, Baden Baden, Bad Nauheim, and some of the other famous ones. He believed that there was a therapy in the use of chemical waters, charged waters and so on, which although not thoroughly understood scientifically, had been empirically demonstrated. Physicians in this country had neglected the utilization of these ancient methods of healing, cure and alleviation of human suffering. He got Baruch interested in this. He was terribly disturbed because Saratoga, which had once been a great spa, where people had gone to take the waters and where physicians had sent their patients, had deteriorated. Although there was still a large group of people who want to Saratoga every year to take the waters, they were for the most part poor people who lived in boarding houses. They were, for the most part, poor Jews.