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It is true that in a way the NRA was building up to a dictator at the top, but it didn't work that way ever. Johnson I'm sure had that dictatorship in mind. I'm sure that people like Tugwell, Wagner, Jacobstein, and others who were working on similar plans beforehand, never had any dictatorship ideas in mind. They counted too much on the general operation of the American idea to prevent any such thing. Johnson accepted very early all the ideas which I contributed certainly out of a certain amount of fear and dread. I proposed the consumers, labor and employers' advisory committee because I was alarmed that this might get way beyond the control of the people. It might develop into just a code authority and Hugh Johnson saying how life should be lived. My alarm wouldn't have come if I hadn't known him, because I wouldn't have had as clear an exposition of it. If Johnson hadn't been in it, I wouldn't have had as clear an exposition of it all. At any rate, he accepted these ideas which were ideas that threw into the NRA the democratic process. It threw into the NRA the affected parties - the employers and the workers - through some kind of representation. Eventually there would also be somebody to speak up for the consumers. They couldn't be said to be representative, but somebody who could take account of the consumers' hazards