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which is the model mill. Of course, I fell for that immediately. I told him I knew it was the best steel mill in the United States. It was the most modern, the most newly equipped, and so forth. It had more of the modern conveniences and modern tricks for accident prevention than any other. He began to get interested when he knew I knew about the mill and about accident prevention. I also went to some other mill of theirs which wasn't so good, but which was up in Pennsylvania because I was going to go to Sparrow Point too.

I made it quite clear to all of them that I wanted an opportunity to talk to the men, that I wasn't going to be stopped. I was going to talk to the men in the mill, and if possible, when it was convenient, I wanted to talk to two or three of them privately.

Anyhow, that was agreed upon. We went up to Pittsburgh and these other places. I asked Father Francis J. Haas, now Roman Catholic Bishop of Grand Rapids, Michigan, to go with me. At that time he was a plain scrub priest teaching in Washington at the Catholic School of Social Work. I knew him. He was a youngish man and strong on his feet. I would have taken Father John A. Ryan, except that Father Ryan had heart trouble, was getting elderly, wasn't so good on his feet, didn't see so very well. I wasn't sure how I would