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more public relations technique. But he fell in with this idea too.

They began to have a great deal of influence with Johnson. I never knew why exactly, but Nelson worked with him. Johnson always needed a set of perfectly reliable slaves. Both Sloan and Slater allowed themselves to do that. They would get for Johnson what he needed. Whether they had ever worked for him or not before, I don't know. I think they may have. I think it would have been in connection with some of Baruch's financing of mills that they knew about, because they also knew George Peek, who was a Baruch man. They knew John Hancock. They obviously knew the Baruch working crew.

Slater really worked like a dog. I never saw anybody work harder than he did. He was primarily interested in the cotton textile code. He wanted a code and he wanted it quick. He had thought out all the details of it very carefully himself, paying attention to what was practical and what would be effective. He also helped out with the organization of the whole NRA. I think it was probably his acceptance of this idea or code committees made up of people who were going to be affected by the codes that brought Johnson around to it.

It was somewhere during this period of conversations,