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Then he disappeared from the scene and Richberg took over.

Unless Hugh went to Europe, and this I cannot remember, he didn't go away from Washington. If he did go to Europe, he stayed very shortly and was back in Washington before too long. He was setting himself up then as a sort of a consultant. But he never looked me up socially again, never telephoned me so far as I know. I kept having things said to me about, “The General's very mad at you.” At the same time the people in NRA would express themselves as greatly relieved and hoped I had done something to rid them of Johnson.

Actually, I had done nothing. What I told the President was what he already knew. I never gave him any particular advice on the subject. He called me in to be a witness because he, in his manlike fashion, thought that Johnson would rather have the witnesses to this episode his friends rather than people who weren't his friends, but of course if he had been a woman he would have known that the one thing a person can't endure is to be humiliated before the members of his family or before the people who are his friends - particularly if one of them is a woman. It's just unendurable. I knew that. I never had any resentment at Johnson for being sore at me after that because I thought it was to be expected. It's how a man





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