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and confirmed by the Senate. Therefore, it can be, and in the past had sometimes been, regarded as a political appointment. Certainly Ethelbert Stewart was regarded as a political appointment when he was appointed, which was good many years before Hoover. But also such good people as Carroll D. Wright had been head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics in earlier years. So they had had good people and political people both.

I made up my mind that we had to have this thing very much on the level and that I would rely upon the American Statistical Association for recommendation. They recommended a list of people and Lubin was appointed from it. Even before he was appointed, if there was a lag between his appointment and my coming into office, I was in conference with him. He was in Washington at the Brookings Institute. I don't know the date of his appointment exactly, but I know that I conferred with him about this matter and that he told me that he had been called in by Jacobstein and Wagner for information. He didn't know what they had in mind, but it was some plan that they thought would be a revival of industry plan. Lubin related it in his thinking to some of the many plans that had been laid before the President. As I think I've said, I found 2000 plans on my own desk, submitted by people from all over the country for the





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