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to do it themselves. But still they were willing to pay the minimum wage. The minimum wage and the maximum hour provisions were nothing to them. That was all right with them. But they didn't want to submit their trade practices to a code committee. They wanted to have their own trade practices. That had been the trouble in dealing with them in NRA.

However, they were determined not to deal with the employees as organized workers, always repeating. “This union that keeps speaking up does not represent our employees. Our employees don't want this union.” This wasn't true at the beginning, but toward the end of the strike I think I have down in Walter Chrysler's own handwriting what he finally told me they would agree to if we pressed them. They would agree to deal with the union representative on behalf of those workers whom “he actually represents.” That means those workers who were members of his union. There was only a handful of people in each factory who belonged to the union. There were more people out of the union than in the union in the automobile factories, even after the United Automobile Workers had got started. Bill Collins had been trying to get members for several years. They had gotten quite a good many members, but by no





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