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an employment service hiring hall. I remember MoGrady saying to me, “Wait and see, they still want to do their own cheating in their own way,” which was about true. You have to sort of expect that. Most of the time there would be a little cheating on the side, no matter what their agreement was, and certain favored people, either favored by the union, or favored by the company, would get the jobs.

The hiring hall was run theoretically under joint auspices. As a matter of fact, that wasn't quite the case. There was a man who represented the Waterfront Employers' Association who was in the hiring hall as their representative at all times supposedly, but he wasn't there very much. As he said to me, “There's no sense my being here. They would do it the way they want to anyhow.” In other words, the union ran the hiring hall, although the employers paid for half of it. They assessed themselves for half the cost and the union paid the other half.

Well, I walked into the hiring hall unannounced, with nobody expecting me, and with this conciliator with me. They were amazed to see a lady coming in. It was dark there. The hall was a rotten place. It was morning, but so dark. There weren't enough windows to let in light. It was dirty. There were benches along the