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Dies was a very peculiar man. There's a big story about him. I got to know him pretty well. I got a personal acquaintanceship with him. I'll go into that later, after I get through with this Bridges story.

I find it hard to remember this whole Bridges tale in consecutive detail, because the rumor occupied so much more of the time than the actual charges and the case.

At the same time there was a strong movement in this country against Roosevelt and all his works. That was beginning to circulate underground, very much underground. It was done by the same techniques which Hitler had used in building himself up in Germany, although at that time we didn't know enough to realize it. The circulation of the “Star of David,” a double, folded over sheet, on the front of which was printed the same star that Jewish people use as their symbol, began. Inside were the names of a great many people, some in public life at that time and some previously in public life, some not in public life but associated with academic and other institutions. The assumption was, although at no point could you put your finger on it, that these people were Jews. Then there was a great long screed about how Jews were men of no country, Jews were