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chicanery at some point if you didn't have lots of safeguards. So we adopted regulations which were based very largely on my experience in New York State, and, I may say, they were good and saved our necks when we came up to the Supreme Court. That was just because I had had the New York State experience and was able to think about that. I didn't have extraordinary wisdom about administrative law, although Mr. Wickersham alleged that I did and asked me to make a speech about administrative law before one of the great legal societies on account of this regulation I had drawn into the Walsh-Healey administration.

I point this out because of the fact that the first opposition we struck was with regard to that. We adopted the regulations and the union people didn't pay any attention to them. What we wanted to do in the Labor Department about the regulations didn't interest them at all. We drew our own regulations, printed them and circularized them. Nobody paid any attention. We didn't get any come-back from anybody. I sent them to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Manufacturers, the AF of L, and any other organization I could think of. We didn't send them to too large a number of societies, but to those that seemed