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about this. I think he'd put one over on me if I asked him what he really knew about the purge. He would tell me something he wanted to get into circulation. However, I don't know who does know about it. This was Corcoran's heyday so he would know a good deal. He did all the leg work on this. He was enthusiastic for it and was always having little rallies about it.

I think McIntyre and Early thought it was all right, and they were quite influential around the White House. However, I think it was more of a stubborn streak in the President than anything else. It may have been vindictiveness, because when you insist on having your way with people who have blocked you that's vindictiveness. Whether they've blocked you legitimately, or not legitimately, if you're determined to have your way anyhow, there's a streak of vindictiveness in your attitude towards those people. You don't do it to make life better for them. It's an aspect of the sin of pride. The two get all mixed. Pride is a very complicated form of sin. It involves a great many false bases of reasoning.

I don't think you can make too marked a division, but it is true that concern with what Hitler was going to do and concern with what was going on in Spain were questions that were raised by Roosevelt more and more





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