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very bitter towards him personally, or at least they has been feeling bitterly towards him, but had gone through the terrible emotional crisis that the coming of war had brought to everybody, and were prepared therefore to say that they ought to swallow their private grievances, do their duty and cooperate with this man, who after all was President and had shown himself brave and courageous in the face of this attack at Pearl Harbor.

They met with me either in the morning or in the early afternoon. I think we saw the President in the early afternoon. and they had met with me in the morning. I had sort of briefed them. I had ironed out some of the kinks by discussion. The President was going to insist on the question of union security, which they never could bring themselves to accept. They were all worked up over that, because it spelled to them that they, the employers, who were going to be on the board, were going to require themselves, and other employers, to insist upon the closed shops for working men whom they didn't believe wanted to belong to a union. They felt they ought not to be the ones to force them to. It was a great moral problem to those who felt as they did. A great deal of it was sincere. It wasn't wholly prejudice against the union. It was a very sincere feeling that you ought not to make Tom Jones, who didn't want to belong to the union, belong to the union.

So I had to prepare them for the idea that the President





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