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War Production Board funds to expand these activities. I would rather have them done under the leadership of people who already know how and don't have to be trained and taught. A competent man like Lubin, or Hinrichs, that we can talk with, can expand or vary or reinterpret the figures already in the possession of the Labor Department.”

We also did a large amount of work for Selective Service. The Army and Navy had to tell the Selective Service how many men they needed in how many months for actual combat. We had to tell the Selective Service how many men it would take to complete the supply service on the manufacturing, warehousing and delivering end, so that when the call-up came it wouldn't destroy the labor force in those enterprises that were engaged in making the ammunition and supplies for the armies.

These things were not done in conferences. This was real work. No conference amounts to anything. No conference is anything the window dressing. What happened was that the head of the War Department, the head of the Navy Department, the head of WPB, the head of Selective Service, the Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Agriculture had a meeting and agreed that they would cooperate. We agreed as to what each agency could supply. From that time on we didn't meet again, except if there was trouble. It wasn't necessary. We told the people who were to do the work to get busy. There was no sense in the Secretary of Labor trying