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and run. We've got to get ahead with this. Don't stop and look at every little thing, or you'll never get these ships built, or these bazookas made, or whatever.”

I don't think that there was any great amount of chicanery that went around in the WPB, although every now and then you'd hear this muttering that people were thinking about their own business. But we had invited a lot of business men down to Washington and I honestly don't think that there was any other way to do it. I don't think that you could have gotten the results you did without them. It wasn't that they were business men, but they were production people. They were people trained in getting production. They knew how to get it and they knew how to show others how to do it.

For instance, take the pattern of the conversion of the General Motors Company from being an automobile manufacturing company to being totally on a war basis. That was really perfectly astonishing. I saw it from the inside. I saw it intimately. I saw it week by week. It was one of the most beautifully done things I ever saw from the point of view of a precision program. It was planned so that everything worked in anorderly manner. You finished the automobiles you had in the works. In the meantime the first operation in themaking of an automobile was being converted. The machinery was being revamped and retooled. The materials and supplies were coming in for that. The superintendents